The argument with you was probably the most immature argument she had argue with people. Watched the performance video of them on the white stage wearing suits and this helped me get a good feel for whos who . I dont really get in arguments that. I watched this vedio in youtube & saw people were arguing about the high note either baekhyuns or he just lipsynced on changmins voice. This is just my imaginary. And one last question, one of them said Changmin is the King of high notes but Salimatou Blade said Chen is. I dont know if her description is correct. i mean if the standard of being good singer = able to hit high notes, then even a monkey is a good singer since they can like C7, Or dolphins for that matter. It is introduced with soft snares, before some quiet, muted strings are brought in. Especially because youve made a point about him singing without a problem which is not correct. You must be talking about my sister. Pitch accuracy in his runs, a fuller rounder resonant sound by taking away the smile technique and evening out his mix, and truly understanding where to sing with the voice he has would be the smartest areas where Changmin could improve his vocals. I cannot tell the pitch; I thought those from rising sun are high coz he seems to be in so much pain (even much more painful than those from Mirotic).. Is Changmin some vocal genius or only he can do this kind of high notes. On notes below D3, his voice will at times lose tone and become breathy, and at others, he will lower his larynx to fill his voice out as if to produce a tone he is aware he wouldnt be able to produce otherwise. hey Im just checking if you still think of yunho as a baritone, just in case you learnt something new, Im just quite surprised to hear he is one, i was sure he was a tenor due to his ease in a tenor range, and somewhat of a light sounding voice, Nope Im still pretty sure hes a baritone. The problem with the smile technique is that it stretches the lips too wide, creating not only lip tension, but also raising his larynx, causing tongue and throat tension, and finally dropping his soft palate, a cause of his nasality. No I get what youre trying to compare but to judge dancing and singing its very different. All of them may fall under the same category as weak to average so without an analysis on each one of them individually, I cant try and find out whos better than who by a hair. Dont worry though, if she truly believes in some of the things shes said when she came hereI wouldnt think she knows more than you or enough to lets say she has the facts to back it up. Even if she believes she does so its not necessary for her to argue with every person who has a different opinion than her own but to each their own. Also, I do hope the love interest wore the blue jeans to feel sexy. Haha, I see. i hope you dont take offence but would you say that either way it is..these analyses are subjective rather than objective (contrary to what you say) since if its only based on your viewpoints it also means that it is just your opinion and if its a collaborative conclusion from all of your team would you say that its still subjective given the credentials of your team seems weak? Its no surprise that hes a weak-average singer tbh and its cool to know exactly why. Daehwi is the strongest vocalist between the four so do you think do analysis of him when he debut with his agency in the future ? As for not understanding the analysis, I believe you are new. Since he was rather young then and didnt receive as much vocal training pre debut as others is it possible that the premature straining of his voice may have had long-term effects on his vocal quality? I'll try to think some more and edit later.. Thank you very much for your reply. If a note is strained, its strained. I would say the rating system is a criteria we created that is subjective to how we were taught. He is very shallow on the support and connection of the vocal cords, whereas Yunho is too tight with how he places his voice and the shape of his throat. Ill go wherever, at your word.) With its synths, staccato electric guitar notes, quick snares and drums, Hit Me Up is undoubtedly the most cheery track on the album. I think his voice is different from before, and I think he made a change. Mhmm thats interesting because both of you shared the same exact IP address at one point. When I got into kpop I heard a bit of DBSK, I could swear that this guy had a good vocal technique because of his treble and the ease that he seemed to achieve. He also may at times lower his larynx to try and project lower notes, which is also incorrect. =-). Their vocal average skill compared to other groups isnt the highest, if you read the analyses, you can see that. Thanks for telling the truth. Wooyoung is the feature for that song and its really easy to pick up on. So I cant say one is better or Id rather say I dont think it matters, Id rather they become better than what they are instead of better than one another. Kinda reminds me of 2min (Taemin and Jimin at times ). Your IP Address and Sallys were the same when you first came into the blog and when she came as well but right now yours has changed but its still nearby where her IP address was, so I figured you were the same person. Changmin can support lower than Taeyang and has a better head register. They could probably pursue a solo career, being a soloist has nothing to do with vocal skill, as one can see from Britney Spears or Lee Hyori. Many Kpop singers either want to sound stylistic or theyre taught to sing high, as high as possible, no matter how. so in my mind, do a supported note seem more difficulte than do strain note, I think TVXQ! Doesnt that technique also engage even resonance in the mask, or buzzing in both cheekbones? Cause I remember listening to this and I dont remember noticing any change to his technique. People say that his voice becomes nasal sometimes or is he considered as a rapper ?! But Wooyoung has a nice airy counter tenor voice which can go high. And what note they hit on 04:12 , 04:39 , and 04:43 ? Assim falsete como voc sabe no exatamente ideal, ento mesmo que ela tenha um falsete assim de boa, no voz da cabea. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works also i read your team page but i kind of curiousare the analyses made on these website based on your viewpoints or an amalgamation of viewpoints from the team? A Dia deve ser perto de competent, mas eu no conheo a Haena bem o suficiente.. Ela t em um novo grupo n? Yet, I feel like I can tell when I hear Seonghwa vs Yunhomaybe 50/50. San has a higher voice and is usually singing, he has a mellow middle toned voice. Yunho is also great. as a quintet were a stronger vocal unit, but separated their weaknesses become more apparent. Really I got that for DB5K Jaejoong is Main vocal and everyone else is also a vocal in their respective range (idk what its called) Yunho: Vocal (Baritone) Jaejoong: main Vocal. The message behind Change the World is sweet. To say that any of them have tried to change their technique in anyway in the past few years, I cant say Ive noticed an active change of vocal habits. His throat tends to also close, the back of his tongue tensing up and his larynx raising, causing the sound to become thin, tight and nasal overall. He does not tend to get throaty or push his chest voice up, but rather produce a heady nasal whiny sound which still will damage his voice over time. Thank you so much for this post- when I read this about a year ago I got really angry and thought what does this person know about singing thankfully although it had only been a year I can recognise that you can accept critiques and still enjoy a singer for their songs/tone. Edit: Yeosang is the baritone/bass. 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Able to overall keep stability with the larynx and produced a non-breathy tone down to around Eb3 and D3. How good were Changmin and Key here ? Oh, okay. I dont understand what you are trying to say. Jongho and San also have pretty recognizable tones, Jongho's being more bright and round, and San's being more husky. Those notes are not extremely high if you mean the ones at the end of the bridge, it only peaks at Bb4. What it has, instead, is a naive tone: its lyrics revolve around a one-sided love wishing to be part of even the smallest parts of their crushs life. His control getting better. There is a powerful groove to the song. Is something wrong with my ears? I havent listened to them this year specifically though so this is off of the past years of listening. So Im curious, what are features/distinctions you look for to tell which member is singing? I dont really wish to compare whos better than who, but I can say that Yoochun had a lot of natural gifts singing-wise and because of that he never really worked to improve anything and eventually his bad habits took over the good part of his voice. He uses a high larynx, squeezed throat, improper breath support. Same!! Changmin has been able to strain much higher than that, like the E5 or Eb5 from Mirotic. Listen to Star 1117. Unless Taeyang has a better mix? No, I wouldnt say theyre subjective. Question about Yunho, I do believe that he has improved when I look at where he is now compared to pre-split. Its really hard, we really cant think of any man that we know of well as Excellent, we know great male vocalists but Excellent? With immense emotion and power. Its not his first solo venture; the veteran idol has had countless solo singles and even an Japanese album under his name. May 28, - BLACKPINK Rolling Stone | JISOO Rolling Stone Photoshoot #Jisoo #Lisa #Rose #Jennie #RollingStone #advertisement #photoshoot # BLACKPINK's Jisoo opened up like never before in an interview with Rolling Stone. Honestly the best way to get better at telling their voices apart is just listening to them a lot, lol. Singing for a long period of time does not mean one will improve their singing. A subreddit dedicated to the South Korean boy group ATEEZ of KQ Entertainment, Press J to jump to the feed. 15 years since his debut and I dont know all about techniques but if he forces his voice I dont understand how he still sings in that way without problem. His overall breathing isnt completely incorrect, however he isnt too mindful of the true intake of air he needs to support his voice. Its not about comparing their voices to mine, strain, support, all these sound qualities are universal. The touch of trumpet right at the end after a vocal-less instrumental conclusion also makes the track all the more memorable. I am so glad youve come to that understanding, I know a lot of people react that way and it kind of makes me sad, but it makes me even happier knowing youve overcome that and that you worry about his vocal health now! Somehow, it works, and the tempo changes in his singing make Why all the more captivating. The advocated people-centred approaches are intended to allow people living with a disability quality of life, community presence, participation and social inclusion. One of the biggest issues I have with these 2 is Yunho typically (not always) has the first lines in a song but then Seonghwa comes in right behind him. ps: i have zero knowledge about music. Ok thank you very much ^^. Oh damn sorry for that mistake i was thinking Taeyang was in weak .-. A very stable and powerful presence. Give Gift; Back to Top; Post by darby on Jun 9, 2022 18:41:25 GMT. He made his official debut on October 24, 2018 as the main dancer and vocalist of the boy group ATEEZ. i know that he can hit highest note than most of kpop male vocalist. He still sounds exactly the same as when he debuted. martin guitar service center; white stuff in bottom of canned green beans Notes below though may at times be overly breathy or just generally a stable larynx, but a quiet almost inaudible volume. Risk. Yeah dont worry. Honestly, I just somehow figured it out throughout time. Lol Strain is absolute, if youre unable to recognize strain that doesnt mean that its subjective, it just means the listener is unable to differentiate sound qualities in singing. also how accurate would you say judging someone vocals through videos that are possibly all recorded and/or edited in different manners than hearing someone live? DBSK fans have been praising him so much. But do you think that he has improved enough to be better than Yoochun? Yunho hates quickies. i understand K-Pop Vocal Analysis is comprised of OneHallyu members Chung, zhx/Andrew, Pedro, Jiyul/Alyson The Vocalist Supreme, Akisama/Layla, Ahmin/Matheus, Niki, Josias, and HappinessOfStab/Denise. 4:12 D5 in mixed voice. Due to these tracks, and a few others, the news of Yunhos first solo albums came with a buzzing excitement. But the one thing Yoochun does to his benefit is that he stays within the range that he can support more often than Yunho. Yes but I didnt say that so do not quote me as if I did because I dont like to spread wrong information around. So it is very accurate. Its okay, that commenter has been here for a while now and theyre nice and all but at first they came with a different persona or so they claim, their sisterclaiming some messed up information to be true like voice types are pokemon levels and you can like evolve from a bass to a tenor as in tenor >>> bass and I was like mhmm. 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