I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. cherrygemgem 1 yr. ago. I just have a few random loose theories, none of which I am married to. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. I didnt remove it. Is that also speculation? Its at his home on a shelf! Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: This is what happened. At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. Xs wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. Ill leave it at that. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? If so, why? Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM PST. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. What? Summer months. Great job guys presenting this case so well. Literally anyone can be a journalist. The motive was sexual. Not so much for 15 year old girls. This is getting ridiculous. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? I hav followed both cases very closely. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. Good question Jess. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? A scenario that fits the timelines and witness accounts is as follows. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. They then head back to find her friend and walk the trails together then later leaving while the search is going on. So if any POIs happen to get charged with a felony (not related to being BG), it's a hurry up and wait but don't take too long kind of game. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. We will discuss things we learned in the Perry Freeman interview on Saturday night as well as other thoughts about what could be happening in the case.Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DelphiMurders/https://pdresources.wordpress.com/201https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blhttps://www.innocentlivesfoundation.oAs a friendly reminder, I do the BEST research I possibly can before posting every single one of my videos. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. Twice they were wrong. In addition, we may have more documents. He is also in IT, which I'd have a guess that he didn't take his mobile phone with him to the bridge. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. I found it to be a really compelling theory, and as captain mentioned in the pod, the missing link with all the other "good fit" POIs that have been discussed is they cannot be placed at the scene. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Please do not contact people you are suspicious of or attempt to harass, threaten or intimidate anyone. Answers to questions about my credibility. They think he did it, but as far as real, good, hard evidence that will stand up in court, theres not a lot there. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? FAIR USE Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. That can only mean one thing. Shop eBooks and audiobooks at Rakuten Kobo. Im not familiar with Indiana; Ive never been there. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. family/fianc/false alibi providers), or more than meets the eye with this suspect. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. Im not sure I understand what covered means. @Skip, Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. Oh one more thing. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Viewer discretion is advised. Busy location with a diner nearby. We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. Is that also speculation? It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? Thanks again and have a great day. Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. Are you speculating? This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? So when you are saying, No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents, do you think its possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Have you been in contact with her at all? So, I recently became the latest target of Derek Godsey, with him using my name and photo to create fake accounts and specifically using my name in one of his recent videos, naming me as the murderer. Do we know who is posting as DP on fb ? All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. Almost zero. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? I very much think that a lot of the things that have puzzled me are now easily explained by Skip Jansen and Faceman's theory. 1 hr. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. "You want to know what we know one day you will.". It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Kline on Thursday was in the Miami County Jail in Peru, Indiana, on 30 felony charges that include child porn and child solicitation. Did he see BG? Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? I have an official case document here in my hand. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. I believe that the reason LE has been so tight-lipped is because they know that the killer is following the case very closely. Thank you!TIP HOTLINE: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or (765) 822-353Close SourcesFBI RESOURCESVideos, timeline, maps, interviews etc.https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/new-#delphi #AbbyandLibby #TheDelphimurders #bridgeguy #Truecrime #murder #missing #Indiana #unsolved #justiceforabbyandlibbyFair Use: LET ME BE VERY CLEAR This content on my channel may contain copyrighted content not authorized for use by the owner. There are signatures on the document. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. Skip said something on the true crime garage podcast that sounded to me like he is not in law enforcement. Easy, they were lying! Active litigation means that discovery is available. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Anyway, even if there was PIV sex, the victim would have died soon after the sex and the tiniest speck of a fetus, the size of a pencil dot on a sheet of paper, along with it. Besides being psycho. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. Any info on what he would post about when he was active? So many armchair-detective, keyboard warriors who want to insert themselves into something they know nothing about; if they had any sense, they would realize that he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. I think cycles finally straighten out at age 15. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Kelsi has been cleared. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. Long, 22 pages. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Can you believe that I said that on Facebook, and some retarded ass computer flagged it and banned me for a while for insulting another user? The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. If he did, its probably because he was getting bashed for no reason the delphimurder sub definitely deleted it though. Thank you so much! In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. is that creepy guy still following us?. I will. He has connections with current LE officers. No longer in state. ), and has a strong connection to the girls. Nic comes on and says hes not on here to discuss suspects and literally does just that. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. An undated handout photo shows Anna Williams with her daughter, Abby Williams, who was murdered in Delphi, Ind., in Feb. 2017. @ Skip, I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. Every podcast is all about them! This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. DELPHI, Ind. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Please. Or wet sneaker. He had been there that morning too. Good time to put up road blocks and spike strips. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. I guess he cant make up his mind. But about that fake DP Facebook account 3 days ago, New Cricket made a post here talking about the possibility of BG having a martial arts background and included links to a couple of old newspaper articles showing DP with his martial arts class when he was younger. This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Are there any screenshots of these alleged changing stories from DP, Cheyenne, and others discussed in this podcast? That would have been quite a problem. Its a farce! There are screenshots showing the discrepancies. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Can we prove it? Not important? I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. I never got to see that info. That is all it can possibly be. Chadwell is accused of attempted murder, kidnapping and child molesting in Lafayette. Who says those videos are from him? Its buried under settlement and underbrush. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. I am featuring a world renowned psychic detective through an interview Ill be conducting tomorrow. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. FSG knew everyone in town. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Oh, one more thing, Jim. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. 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